Bosch Blue Coil Vs Red Coil, however, a far newer black coil from 83 might be in better condition ( and more life left to it) Are German Bosch blue ignition coils worth the extra expense ? Page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4 Next Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show Bosch Red coils are the ones typically used with ballast ignition wiring. Like i mentioned before, there are more than one part # for each coil from bosch and ordering the # for the Make sure you use coils with a primary resistance of at least 1. I have a Bosch Red Coil as spare, How do you test a Bosch Blue coil? Another test for the Bosch Blue coil, is to use an Ohmmeter and with all the wires taken off the terminals of the coil attach the positive and negative, the bosch blue coils, which are "sport" coils are better than the standard black bosch coils. The Bosch blue coils that are sold for air cooled VWs also have a built in ballast resistance. Housings branded with a Dinan Logo for easy identification. It is a red-label coil. Also available are the The stock VW coil has a built in ballast resistor. I put a "hotter" aftermarket coil in my car and went back to the stock black coil because I LOST some performance. Paint works for me. I do not have a red coil to provide this information for. The replacement for the black coil is now We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 3 Ohms or greater). So for aesthetics, at a good price, interchanging the DINANs are likely a mild improvement for the 99th Check out the new Bosch Blue Coil at PMB Performance! This high-quality 12-Volt ignition coil comes in blue, includes a bracket, and boasts a primary resistance The popularity of Bosch products among mechanics stems from their reliability, solid warranties, and affordability, making them a go-to choice for VW ignition coils. Looks old and original What should the correct ohms measurement be to ensure the coil is still good? With Old OEM coils are the best, as everyone has already said. ) In a search I read that a Bosch red Are German Bosch blue ignition coils worth the extra expense ? Page: 1, 2, 3, 4 Next Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next The Bosch Red Coil has approximately 1. 9 ohm ballast resistor and the red coil which is twice the voltage, uses twice the Coil - 00012 Search by part number or description The replacement Bosch blue coils have a 3. 4 Ohms. 8 ohm ballast resistor. black blue red (Read 7716 times) merrill Full Member Platinum USA, TX, Austin Posts: 1398 bosch coil question. UZI Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:21 pm i think the advent of the blue coil came in with the I find it strange that you need the Red coil: Bosch specifies the Blue type coil for 4 cylinder engines as being quite sufficient, while the Red coil is for I'm in contact with pertronix europe who are selling the flamethrower 3 ohm coil for around £40. 5 kv without voltage We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. It is impossible to list every coil combination and it is recommended to check with the coil manufacturer before installation. Finding the “good” Bosch blue coil is more important than whether it’s German, or Brazilian. Author Topic: bosch coil question. The aftermarket coil I got also has a 3. Both are stated as good for stock or points Blue coil has a built-in ballast resistor which you don’t need. I need at least 2 coils for different tractors both with Kohler singles, been "robbing" one and swapping it between a couple of machines when I go to work on them. Bosch | Beru | V8 | 2CV The black coil is about 13 KV and the red one is about 26KV. The high-performance electronic coil is designed specifically for use with electronic ignition (e. 4 ohm primary resistance. 0 221 122 003. ( Used with point type distributer) Caution! Never install ignition coil Bosch No. As they did with the blue coils, they marketed this as a Bosch Blue Coil, with Bracket, 12-Volt Blue in Color, Primary Resistance 3. , Compufire, The differences are slight: the Black and Blue coils are essentially identical and the Blue one produces a stronger spark but you won't see any improvement in Multiple color options to choose from (black, red, and blue). With 12vdc supplied, the points open, dropping the voltage to the coil to Bench testing E-core vs I core on the bench is not informative so until I get a running engine test stand, I can;t comment if the Bosch or Pertronix E-core In another thread some of us have been discussing the differences between the Bosch Red and Blue Coils and which 308's use what. Primary resistance is measured between the two metal tab posts, (terminals #1 and #15,) and Compatible Coils for Use with Hot Spark Ignition Applies to Hot Spark 3-Series (red) ignition kits Coil Warning: DO NOT use a low-resistance or an HEI-style coil. (These Bosch red coils were Bosch red coils are designed for a (weaker) points based ignition, they will create a much shorter spark in your QV setup compared to the original transistor coil. com een bobine koopt bent u verzekerd van een uitstekende combinatie met de 123 ignition elektronische verdeler. com :: View topic - Question re testing my coil TheSamba. com :: View topic - Better than a Blue It is not on the sticker. Discover the differences between OEM and aftermarket ignition coils to make an informed decision. 190SL's use a blue coil without a resistor but you can also find the black ones used as well. Red coils are around I'd like to do some more scientific testing to find out exactly what the true benefit is (the coil is basically a step-up transformer and the blue coil with its altered Blue coil has a built-in ballast resistor which you don’t need. Now within a specific brand they may do it to differentiate each product, but for most, it is just for looks. So, following simple math, the black coil uses . I am aware of the Flamethrower coil but also have a With a 123 distributor the Bosch red coil with no ballast resistor will make a stronger spark than a Blue coil. Looking for ignition coils? Our team of experts narrowed down the best ignition coils on the market. Bosch black original coil secondary (high voltage) resistance was The blue coil will work with all the Crane points conversions (XR-i/XR600/XR3000) but its not an ideal setup for a Ferrari due to the blue coils low output. (4- and 6-cylinder) engines: Use a coil Bosch Blue coils Jump to Latest 2. 5ohm and Accuspark is blue. Transistor ignition coils do not Blue coil came later and is internally resisted. If you The aftermarket coil I got has a 7. Delphi Ignition Coils Delphi has an Im planning on installing a Pertronix II ignition system into Survivor(76 with resistor wire) soon and was wonder about a suitable coil. ( 1,0 Ohm or more ) For standard street engines we advise a “Bosch Blue” or “Beru ZS106” coil. Getting ready to install Bluetooth 123 ignition, have new plugs, Bosch red coil etc. For high rpm engines a Old Black colored coil that came on my car: Bosch # 0221 119 001 291 K12V Newer Silver colored coil with Blue sticker: Bosch # 0221 119 027 741 K12V Latest Silver colored coil with Red However, on 2002tii models the stock coil has more voltage output than the Bosch blue coil and the performance increase is provided by the Bosch red coil. 5 ohms or greater primary resistance will work with a Unilite module. 4 ohm primary. Are all Bosch Blue coils the same? I know they look like From: Bosch Email Question [mailto] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:37 AM To: Horn, Jason Subject: RE: Bosch Blue vs Red coil Blue coil is rated @ 17. Alternately SimonBBC sells the blue bosch coils for £30, although from what I've read, Bosch blue coil is suppose to produce a higher spark voltage of 18,000 volts and the original vw coil produces 12/14,000 volts and Bosch red coil produces 25,000 volts and some high Wanneer u bij 123ignitionshop. You could also use an MSD Blaster 2 coil with the ballast resistor that is included The Bosch 12 volt, 3 ohm blue ignition coil is epoxy filled, making it ideal for mounting in any orientation without the risk of leaking. Ours came with black coil requiring 0. Aftermarket 3 Ohms coils - I sell the Bosch Blue form Brazil. Red coil is higher output. 1. report. I would recommend using either Pertronix Flame-Thrower 40501/40511 3. 0Ω coils, or use Bosch red coils with ballast resistors instead of the Bosch blue coils. Learn how to find the ideal ignition coils for your vehicle by The Bosch red coil part #12131357240, also referred as 00013, now made in Brazil to mixed reviews - is there a quality German made equivalent high output coil from say Beru? Or The positive lead connects to the terminal on the coil marked with + sign, the terminal marked with the - sign connects to the distributor. True upgrade, not just Which coil should I use with a ballast ignition system? Without modifying your ignition system, you can use any standard ballast coil or we offer a performance Ignition Coil C90i-pro This single fire coil was developed for the use e. g. I had to get an external resister and wire from the solinoid (sp) to the resister for starting. 0 Ohms, and the other is 3. I searched the NAPA website and you would think asking it for a 3 . The coil in Depends Only use Bosch ignition coils, No 0 221 119 017 or 0221 102 050 with resistor. Color has nothing to do with performance. He said that there has been a discussion about Brazilian Bosch coils in the Porsche forum. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 5 Ohms coils - I hunt down original made in Germany Red coils - at A friend who has a GTV as well as a pair of 911's had an almost new Bosch red coil fail. I see alot of "BERU" Classified ads, photos, shows, links, forums, and technical information for the Volkswagen automobile DINAN coils are typically rebranded Eldor or Bosch coils with minor modifications. 0 Ohm. Would the Bosch Red coil be any better? Also any way of testing to see if I got a bad unit or something? I Discussion on choosing between Bosch and Beru ignition coils for vehicles. I believe the blue is Ignition Coil Hi all, I hear the Bosch Blue Ignition coil is the “best of the best” (on some other sites) for Dubs? If this is the case. in GDI (turbocharged) high performance engines. 8 ohm resistor". Without the proper Blue Coils are the best VW coils by far to run on all applications from Stock to High Performance. Interesting - I know that Jeff at Advanced Distributers swears by the Blue coils - and sells them though when we My new Bosch coil, bought last week, as yet uninstalled, is labeled for "old style, non-transistorized ignition" and the box says "requires 1. With 12vdc supplied, the points open, dropping the voltage to the coil to Classified ads, photos, shows, links, forums, and technical information for the Volkswagen automobile Any 12v coil with 1. Here is an excerpt All Bosch ignition coils are built to achieve or exceed OE specifications and are known industry-wide for their reliability and performance. Or in my case, as I run a 123 What is the difference between the bosch red and blue coils? Without modifying your ignition system, you can use any standard ballast coil or we offer a performance ballast coil from Bosch (red coil 0221119030). By using a coil with a higher winding Then, at some point, Bosch began selling the red coils paired with red ballast resistors. To summarize: If you have, or are going to install, an electronic triggering module, you need to be certain about the coil/ballast resistance. Bosch Ignition Coil In a Table Beru Ignition Coil Overview BERU Ignition Coils are designed, tested, and manufactured to meet Original Classified ads, photos, shows, links, forums, and technical information for the Volkswagen automobile I have the bosch "blue" ignition coil. It includes a mounting bracket and is compatible with Computronix, My Petronix coil just crapped out yesterday. I noticed you are using a Bosch blue coil; this coil I'm thinking of going back to the black coil and checking if its in my mind or real. (It is Beru vs. Check out this ad The Bosch #00012 should be a blue body coil, red/yellow Bosch sticker, and a zinc silver plated bracket that is open on the ends so that it can be slipped under the mounting bolts without PDF document PDF document Read this PDF document online, download the original file, and browse related details on device. It is designed for direct cylinder head mounting. Additional coding instructions can be found in the Article File chapter Which coil should I use with a ballast ignition system? Without modifying your ignition system, you can use any standard ballast coil or we offer a performance A 72-79 Federal bus came with a black coil 022 905 115C and a common "upgrade" includes switching to the hotter blue coil, sometimes called the Bosch Super Classified ads, photos, shows, links, forums, and technical information for the Volkswagen automobile Zenon's article substantiates that information with a list of two differently rated Bosch black coils - along with blue and red. 7 Ohms resistance. Works great with Electronic Ignitions too. Good day one and all. The Bosch Blue is no longer made. I would not change the coil just because, but if I had a failure and needed to by one, I would pick the Bosch Blue. Using a non The black coils are external resistance and the blue ones usually are not. I'm not sure that the coil wasn't bad, but it was noticeable. The Bosch #00012 should be a blue body coil, red/yellow Bosch sticker, and a zinc silver Coil question: I am needing to replace my coil, but I am finding two Bosch Blue coils for my buggy- one is 3. Is there any company I should avoid or The difference in the blue and black bosch coils are the filling use to cool the windings, both have an 80:1 turn ratio. 7K views 4 replies 4 participants last post by RED-85-Z51 Aug 8, 2007 Ingersoll444 Discussion starter Classified ads, photos, shows, links, forums, and technical information for the Volkswagen automobile This chart lists the compatibility of various coils with MSD Ignition Controls. black blue red « on: July 22, 2007, *The difference in the blue and black bosch coils are the filling use to cool the windings, both have an 80:1 turn ratio. 4 Ohms, Epoxy filled, (Boxed) WARNING: This product can expose you to chemicals I have tested the Bosch Blue ignition coil and points on an engine with a 34PICT-3 with a leaky float valve that caused flooding, and the Bosch The Bosch blue coil in my '74 is bad, looking for a replacement (compatible with the Crane XR 700 electronics I would like to keep for the time being. However, not all Bosch blue coils have built in Looking for ignition coils? Our team of experts narrowed down the best ignition coils on the market. Read this review and save yourself time and There are five different "Bosch Blue Coils", and only one of them has the ballast in it. Read this review and save yourself time and money. Looking on Amazon there's the 'standard' Denso coils but for roughly the same price I can get a set of 4 from like 20 different chinese manufacturers. As I recall, the Pertronix needs at least 3 Ohms, so an external resistor is needed (1. do I need to run a ballast resistor? I currently have a blue coil without external TheSamba. 97k ohm resistance, so the spark will likely be slightly hotter than the Bosch blue coils, but not as hot as performance racing coils like the Pertronix flame I have the 123Ignition installed and switched to a Beru ZS565 (original one failed) and runs without any problem. As Derek says, the Bosch blue coil is 3ohm whereas the Accuspark is red; conversely the the Bosch red is 1. This We are not talking Bosch coils here, but Accuspark. Bosch ignition coils convert low voltage into high ignition system Coils Just a note, I have the Red Coil, it is defined as Racing Use only. Sold each The Bosch coil is epoxy filled coil and will not leak if mounted sideways or upside down *NOTE: If you are running points, or a points replacement device ( The newer ones are supposed to be longer lasting and higher spark, though that could be sales-talk. Bosch blue coils have a lower 12 Volt Bosch Blue Coil.
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